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The Smithsonians say that the evidence against Smith / Hufschmid / Bollyn is only circumstantial. Yet when Alex Jones et al say that evidence against Israel is only circumstantial, the Smithsonians conclude that they are "Zionist agents". Surely the Smithsonians can see why those who suspect Smith of being more than meets the eye are sometimes a little suspicious of "Smith deniers"?

And we are seeking to convict the Zionists of mass murder for profit and power. The charge against Smith / Hufschmid Bollyn is of being Zionist agents who are not worth listening to. So the standard of proof against the trio need not be as high as that required to convict the Zionists for 9/11, etc.

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So, Mossad agents dancing and photographing 9/11 as it happens, dressed as Palestinian Arabs is "circumstancial"? I'd say that's CAUGHT RED HANDED.

Not to let off all the corrupt US government officials, who must have been involved.

How interesting that Daryl was in the Navy as a chef, did he not admit this? How interesting that Chris is of royal descent; on his website it links to some of that history. Most interesting is Eric's wife's sister is married to one of Rupert Murdoch's sons, yes?

Yet, even if he WAS the son of Rupert Murdoch, would that be proof that all the information provided is false and he's a Zionist? I use my own judgement whenever I'm presented with info from ANYONE about ANYTHING.

So when Alex Jones says the evidence against Zionist Israel is circumstancial, he's lying, because everyone knows they were directly involved and were caught red handed.

These facts about the FC three are interesting indeed, but alas, proof of no wrongdoing.

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The Smithsonians say that the evidence against Smith / Hufschmid / Bollyn is only circumstantial. Yet when Alex Jones et al say that evidence against Israel is only circumstantial, the Smithsonians conclude that they are "Zionist agents". Surely the Smithsonians can see why those who suspect Smith of being more than meets the eye are sometimes a little suspicious of "Smith deniers"?

And we are seeking to convict the Zionists of mass murder for profit and power. The charge against Smith / Hufschmid Bollyn is of being Zionist agents who are not worth listening to. So the standard of proof against the trio need not be as high as that required to convict the Zionists for 9/11, etc.

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So, Mossad agents dancing and photographing 9/11 as it happens, dressed as Palestinian Arabs is "circumstancial"? I'd say that's CAUGHT RED HANDED.

Not to let off all the corrupt US government officials, who must have been involved.

How interesting that Daryl was in the Navy as a chef, did he not admit this? How interesting that Chris is of royal descent, on his website it links to some of that history. Most interesting is Eric's wife's sister is married to one of Rupert Murdoch's sons, yes?

Yet, even if he WAS the son of Rupert Murdoch, would that be proof that all the information provided is false and he's a Zionist? I use my own judgement whenever I'm presented with info from ANYONE about ANYTHING.

So when Alex Jones says the evidence against Zionist Israel is circumstancial, he's lying, because everyone knows they were directly involved and were caught red handed.

These facts about the FC three are interesting indeed, but alas, proof of no wrongdoing.

50 circumstantials = conclusive.

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It would be nice for Daryl, Eric or Chris to answer these questions themselves, as I've never heard any of that sh*t either, except here.. That Family Tree is quite revealing, lol, what a connection! After all this BS, I'm sort of interested in what this Piper guy has to say at 8 o'clock, lol.

Nice work UAZ.

I find it astounding that anyone can defend Alex Jones. Do we not have very solid reasons to question the Hollercurse? Yet "Germanic Death Cult" Jones seems to be locked onto and still trying to milk hard that old and very tired tit.

Ain't it plain as day that the Zioscum were the orchestrators of 911? Death Cult Jones isn't interested, and some people here try to equate the evidence against Smith with the hermetically sealed case against Bibi and the Crew. WTF? Repeat, WTF?

The "case" presented against Smith et al is a sorry-assed and very shabby collection lunges, blind leaps, swipes, and smears. It is in no way similiar to what we know about the perpetrators of 911.

Has anyone else offered an archive of material equal to Smith's? Where else can one listen to interviews with people as knowledgeable about the history and current operations of the Zionists? The scope and quality are excellent.

Here at the Indictment, we've seen a string of silly, obfuscatory maneuvers such as:
"Smith pretends its his research"
"Smith ignores current Zio operations"
"Guests have abandoned him"
"Smith doesn't provide transcripts"
"Smith 'hides' in France"
"Smith is known 'CIA'"
"Smith's stuff is tooooooo good"
"Smith's stuff is old hat"
"Smith's interviews are not convenient"
"Smith is very rude in exapserated emails"
"Smith's call for vigilance is 'dividing the truth movement'"
"Rivero has covers Zionism in depth"
"Smith protects Bush-Cheney by blaming Israel"
"Fester curses and so does Smith!"
Etc, etc, ad naseum

At best, there is a small collection of half questions: what was the source of the Freedman MP3? Can Daryl make an omlet without breaking any eggs? Will Bollyn behead his wife? Oh shit, there were one or two more legit half questions but I forget them.

IF and when TFC starts feeding bogus info, then we can say he fed us well in order to reel us in later.

Yeah, but, the Old Pipe is gonna bless us with the "real" story tonight. Sorry. Forgot.

UAZ:

Good list, CoZ, but there's even more than that. If you read this LF thread, it all becomes crystal clear.

I read it when you linked to it in the "DBS Indicted!" thread mate, it's a good summary. And it's been added to since then, by the looks of things.

Then there's also the involvement of Michael Chertoff, the Simons, the Millers, the Yorans, etc, and the countless connections between all these Zionists, all of which Chris Bollyn has exposed on TFC and in his articles.

Chertoff I know about, but I've never even heard of the Simons, the Millers and the Yorans. If you've got it archived or bookmarked, throw me some links, if you will. It's bedtime here, I'm gonna crash.

Listen to the 2006 interviews he did with DBS.

http://tomgoy.awardspace.com/?lastn=Bollyn&firstn=Christopher#visa

Start from the bottom up.

COZ, Bollyn has info on the Simon family's backing of Lee Hamilton and family member Deborah's backing of Loose Change:
www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviewsBollyn-Simon.html
www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviewsBollyn.html
www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Bollyn_30Aug2006.html <- Zio computer gang
www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviewsBollyn16Nov2006.html <- Rahm Emmanuel etc.

Does Piper delve into any of this? Where else is it available? Thanks. Fester.

See this YouTube about the Dancing Israelis. The Fox News report, quoting The New York Times, confirms that the Israelis had foreknowledge. And to an objective observer, foreknowledge is evidence of complicity.

The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards.

Source

The German newspaper Bild am Sonntag reported that the Mossad office in London received advance notice of the 7/7 attacks, but only six minutes before the first blast. This was to try to 'explain' Netanyahu's advance warning. In fact, the Mossad actually did it, so they had much more than six minutes' advance warning. It's unbelievable that, if there really had been "Muslim suicide bombers", the information would have suddenly reached them at almost the same time as the first bombing. Then, prior to the Amman bombings of 11/9 or 9/11 in the European calendar, Israelis staying at the Radisson were evacuated prior to the attacks. They made up some nonsense about the bombs being due to "suicide bombers", and how the bomb that was in the false ceiling must have been put there some other time, like the Gaza beach shelling was claimed to be 'really' an accident with a Hamas landmine.

We know the Zionists are guilty, but unfortunately, not everyone accepts this. The Zionist deniers have a blind spot with Jews in which they perceive them as the victim rather than the evildoer. They rationalize their conclusions by imagining that the witnesses were "anti-Semites", or it was just a coincidence, or the Mossad were just very good at tracking "Arab terrorists".

I suggest the Smith deniers have a similar blind spot with Smith. TFC's M.O. is: 1) Impress anti-Zionists by telling them what they want to hear, affirming each listener's own beliefs. 2) Waste the anti-Zionists' time by supplying titbits of information on audio files mixed with gossip and rumors about how all their rivals in the truth movement are "Zionist agents". 3) Sow the seeds of fear and mistrust in the listener. 4) Present the French Connection trio as the "one true truth tellers" who can be trusted. Thus, they establish a degree of control over the flow of information, enticing their listeners with morsels of circumstantial evidence when they could be out searching for smoking gun evidence. The last thing the Zionists need is thousands of pesky truth seekers conducting their own personal research and delving into evidence of Zionist complicity in mass murder for profit and power.

See the video of Chris Bollyn speaking here, where he again confirms that he got to "meet" David Rockefeller in the park. He starts talking about Bilderberg at about 38:20, saying "I've met a couple of them [Bilderbergers] in the park; I've met David Rockefeller in Paris the other year when he came walking back from the Chateau at Versailles." A top NWO / Zionist / crypto-Jewish / globalist who is on friendly enough terms with a representative of an anti-Zionist publication that he doesn't tell him to get lost? We all agree that Bollyn looks sincere in this video, but almost 100% of its content would be truthful in any case.

Bollyn starts talking about his time in Israel (41:30), saying that he only had a D visa, and "I'm a Christian ... as a Christian, you cannot get married to an Israeli, you cannot own land in Israel." Yet Piper says he has an email from Bollyn claiming to have been married to an Israeli woman who worked for Israeli intelligence. He says he has passed the email on to Suzette. Someone is lying.

Bollyn said he was tasered and then handcuffed, and then changed his story to tailored whilst restrained. He said the three police officers who arrested him were "heavily-armed agents" from an "undercover tactical unit", "wearing body armor" ... a "covert gang-suppression unit". In fact, all three of them were regular traffic cops. Officer Tim Stoy had been given a DUI enforcement award for making 25 arrests, Officers Michael Barber and Darin Felgenhauer had received "Honorable Mention" awards relating to DUI, and Michael Barber had a Police Dept. Meritorious Police Duty Award relating to Hurricane Katrina.

Smith says the information about Zionist involvement in 9/11 was not available by 2002 when Eric published his book and video, but that has been exposed as an outright lie. Smith claims he won't use Skype because it "doesn't network the way they want". Yet:

Skype is a little piece of software that lets you make free calls to anyone else on Skype, anywhere in the world. And even though the calls are free, they are really excellent quality. If you and your friends, family or business contacts are using webcams, you can also make free video calls. You can even call landlines and mobile phones at really cheap per minute rates.

Skype is free to download and easy to use.
Do more than just calling
Just like instant messengers, you can also use Skype to chat and not just with one other person at a time, but with up to 100 people in a group chat. If it’s a really nice group chat, you can bookmark it and find it later, which is handy for persistent chats with family or business contacts.

Source

Eric says that 99% of 9/11 truth seekers are worthless and part of "the criminal network".

Someone is clearly lying, and TFC trio look to me to be the prime suspects. But their operation isn't about disinformation so much; it's aimed at keeping truth seekers occupied by feeding them pieces of circumstantial evidence, and associating TFC with the evidence so that when TFC implodes, the evidence becomes tarnished by association.

Thanks to UAZ for the diagram. Maybe having royal ancestors is not so significant, and those who boast about it studiously avoid pointing out that it applies to almost everyone. According to this report:

Some experts estimate that 80 percent of England's present population descends from Edward III.

Source

If there is a Bollyn - Rockefeller connection, that would make Bollyn (installed in 2000) of higher ranking than Hufschmid (installed in 2002). So instead of Christopher being "Eric's lap-puppet", as Piper says, it would be the other way around.

Apart from Bollyn's connection to Queen Elizabeth I, and Eric's links to Rupert Murdoch, Daryl Smith says his own lineage can be traced back directly to the immigrants on the Mayflower.

He was lying about

A:Being an American citizen

Or

B:lying about living in France.

Where is this Guy talking from? Who knows. He will not use skype BECAUSE it will uncover his nesting spot INSTANTLY. Creditability is something you will never have Mr Sutter.

Oh and i guess the higher highers told him to do the "GET YER SHOT GUNS" thing again. Something to be scared of mr Sutter? Or do you just want a bunch of folks to go out and do some killing in the near future? THis is twice you have spouted Go and Buy a bunch of guns and ammo what is your plan? Why does this human advocate Killings of ANY sort?

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Ever tried Skype over 56k dialup?
Not so good.

Nina,

According to Eric Hufschmid, DBS got high-speed Internet last year. I'm sure that he could find guests who also have high-speed Internet. And of course, Eric has high-speed Internet.

Well, despite what Eric has supposedly reported re Daryl's connection, every time i have logged Daryl's visits he has had a different France Telecom IP address. Always geo-located to the same provincial area, but always a different IP (even when multiple visits were recorded just hours apart during the same day, each visit reflected a different IP address.)

In my experience, this is indicative of a dial-up connection or at best ISDN, which is still inadequate for Skype. No broadband provider I've ever seen reassigns dynamic IP's with such frequency. Not to say that Eric lied, rather it's possible that Daryl was mistaken about his connection type?

Did anyone bother to listen to the Triper report? Is there actually anything worth contemplating? Or is there just a few peeps here that seem way too gung-ho to discredit our fellow Zionist hunters who smell the infiltration of Zionuts.

Smells like poik, lol.

Suzette, was wondering where you were. As for Daryl "finding guests who have high-speed internet," common sense tells me that it's already enough of a pain in the ass to find guests with prefacing inquires with "do you have high speed internet?"

Good input on Skype. As Smith continues to put out sound info, the common sense answer again works far better than the conspiratorial lunge. Daryl mentioned his phone system choice on one of the most recent shows.

Posiedon says, "TFC's M.O. is: 1) Impress anti-Zionists by telling them what they want to hear, affirming each listener's own beliefs."

It is becoming clearer that YOU HAVE NEVER LISTENED to Smith's show. This is another ridiculously transparent LIE.

Poseidon says, "2) Waste the anti-Zionists' time by supplying titbits of information on audio files mixed with gossip and rumors about how all their rivals in the truth movement are "Zionist agents".

You are upset that Smith infringes upon your patented processes without paying you royalties? Or are you throwing around words you don't know the meaning of (tidbits, rumor, gossip)? Listen to a show such as this one and then begin the long, slow process of figuringe out the difference between innuendo/bullshit and relevant facts: www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviewsPidcock3.html

3) Sow the seeds of fear and mistrust in the listener.

Yada, yada, yada, higher and deeper. Try Daryl Bradford Smith interviews British Colonel Barry Turner, ret. Barry Turner adds more information to the peculiar aspects of World War II, our media, Zionism, and our Mideast problems, such as the fact that many Nazis were Jewish.
www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviewsTurner3.html

Poseidon says, "4) Present the French Connection trio as the "one true truth tellers" who can be trusted. Thus, they establish a degree of control over the flow of information, enticing their listeners with morsels of circumstantial evidence when they could be out searching for smoking gun evidence."

Thank the Lord you've identified the "3 Key Guys" and blown Lord Rothschild's plans to smithereens. Good on ya, ya Big Fish.

Poseidon says, "The last thing the Zionists need is thousands of pesky truth seekers conducting their own personal research and delving into evidence of Zionist complicity in mass murder for profit and power."

That's right, them Zionists are terrified by thought of 'thousands of pesky truth seekers conducting their own personal research." Their deepest desire is for the troofers to become vigilant and to question those who don't focus 100% on Zionist crimes. LOL!

Poseidon, you do provide comic relief, if nothing else. You got a real gift for hypothesizing, dude.

Here is a quote from Poseidon.
"Yet Piper says he has an email from Bollyn claiming to have been married to an Israeli woman who worked for Israeli intelligence. He says he has passed the email on to Suzette. Someone is lying."

Here is an email that Piper sent to me. Piper has given me permission to forward and to post the emails that he has sent to me. He just requested that I remove the CC:s. Note that this response from Bollyn says that he and AFP worked with Eric before his book was published. Both Bollyn and AFP knew about Israel and the Zionists being behind 911 from almost the beginning. As a matter of fact, Bollyn was in NYC on Sept 11, 2001.

In this email Bollyn says that his first wife was in Israeli military intelligence.

In this particular email address of Bollyn's, his name shows as Sam Brand.

Part of this email includes Piper's response to Bollyn.

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Mike, et al:

I am not part of any team with Hufschmit and Smith. I and AFP helped Eric with his book before it was published and he was on my team during the European tour with William Rodriguez and Jimmy Walter.

I did visit him for a few weeks this spring when he let us stay at his house while I worked at the UCSB library. He is familiar with those articles because I wrote them from Santa Barbara.

Hufschmid has learned a lot about the Zionist involvement in 911 FROM my articles and research, which is why he posts them and writes about me on his website. Eric saw how I had to defend AFP, Willis Carto, and myself EVERY day of the European tour while I was attacked daily from a Zionist agent named Jenna Orkin.

I actually had to go through a similar interrogation process and offer my mea culpas and actually withdraw from the lectures in Vienna because of Walter's fears that the whole event would be shut down because of my presence. Hufschmid saw the pressures put on me and the bizarre Zionist agent who followed us in Paris and London and got down on his knee and pleaded with me not to talk about Chertoff or depleted uranium at the WTC. He saw it all and was amazed.

You arranged your show to have two of your supporters, Lisa and Scott, rail against me. Lisa either didn't show or simply stayed back. The subject of the show was supposed to be about my arrest and Wing TV's coverage of it. You then allowed Scott to change the entire subject of the show twice and act as the Great Inquisitor. What am I supposed to think?

CB

Michael Collins Piper wrote:
--- Sam Brand wrote:

> Michael, et al:
>
> The first thing I was told when I started to fill
> in for you on RBNlive.com was that I could not
> criticize or attack any of the other RBN hosts, such
> as Webster Tarpley, who I have reason to believe is
> covering up the Israeli involvement in 911. That
> was the main ground rule and I followed it.
>
> I guess, however, that this simple ground rule did
> not apply to on-air criticism of me. Tired and
> beaten as I was on Thursday night I walked into an
> on-air trap that was carefully laid for me.

You are asserting that I laid a trap for you. This is
remarkable. No, its horrifying, puzzling, astounding
and beyond belief and I don't think there's anybody on
this list who thinks that I would do that, in the
first place, and if they actually listened to the
broadcast (which several have), they know it isn't
true---(more about which later).

Funny thing is that I specifically took Jack Blood's
call at John Stadtmiller's suggestion (via the
computer board) knowing full well that he was going to
go after Victor, largely because of their own personal
pissing match that had nothing to do with you. And now
you are saying that I laid a trap for you.

This is after Lisa Guliani sent out an email
complaining that I had asked them to come on to debate
you and that I had referred to you as a "friend" but
only referred to them as people who had paid me a
stipend.
>
> From what I gather, I had been discussed on other
> shows prior to the one with me and Scott Makufka.
> By the way, his name is Scott Makufka, and that is
> how the newspapers write about him, etc. Victor
> Thorn is his nom de plume. It is deceptive to carry
> on a conversation and use fictional names.

This has nothing to do with me.
>
> I have been very exhausted and tired since this
> ordeal. It was all I could do to get my articles
> written and make the most important calls and
> appointments. In general, I don't read the websites
> of Eric Hufschmid

You are prominently featured there to the point that
Hufschmid and Smith have consistently made it sound as
though you are part of their team.

or Wing TV. I'm not very
> interested and don't have the time. I don't follow
> all the accusations and allegations floating around
> the Internet. If I did, I would never get anything
> done. People accuse me of all kinds of things all
> the time.
>
> You said that I should have responded to the 4
> rapid fire questions from Scott Makufka. Why? Am I
> a witness in a court of law? Why should I submit to
> on-air interrogation from Scott Makufka.

No, what I said was that I was shocked (as were all
the other AFP employees) that you would not defend AFP
as to Hufschmid's accusations.
>
> Makufka said that Eric had something about AFP
> that I had not even seen and I'm supposed to comment
> on it on the air? He said something about AFP being
> controlled by Zionists, I now know. As I said, I
> can't comment on that and have no opinion on it. I
> don't know enough to comment on such a question.
>
> How should I know what goes on at AFP? I simply
> write stories and do my research on my own. I have
> seen that Chris P. and AFP in general is reluctant
> to get into the nitty gritty of Zionism, which I
> attibuted to the fact that don't know Zionism with
> their own eyes as I do.

I am surprised to see that you would say that Chris
Petherick and AFP in general are reluctant to get into
the nitty gritty of Zionism.

THE HIGH PRIESTS OF WAR

THE NEW JERUSALEM

FINAL JUDGMENT

THE JUDAS GOATS

All of the articles that you have written and I have
written on the topic.
>
> I have lived in Israel/Palestine for years and
> seen my friends shot, maimed and killed. I was
> married to a woman who worked in Israeli military
> intelligence. I was the subject of an Israeli
> inquiry when I was 21 years old. I have been to
> Iran, Syria, Jordan, Gaza, Egypt, Tunisia, Turkey,
> and other Middle Eastern capitals since I was 18
> years old.
>
> I know what has gone on in Israel and Lebanon
> since 1977-78 when Israeli Air Force bombers used to
> scream over my head at 5 a.m. in the morning when I
> cleaned the pool on the kibbutz in the Jordan
> Valley. I learned Hebrew and Arabic because I
> needed these languages on a daily basis.

Yes, I know that. I'm not sure what the point is. It's
a feather in your cap that you have all this
background.
>
> When I visited you last time in Washington I was
> surprised that you were unaware of Shimon Peres
> terror attack on the FIJIBATT UN camp in Cana,
> Lebanon in 1996.

I don't know everything about everything, nor do I
pretend to. The godamned Jews have massacred so many
people in so many places it is a little hard to keep
track of.

Are you suggesting that because I didn't know about
this particular massacre that:

a) This proves that I am part of The Criminal Network

b) That anything I write cannot be trusted because I
didn't know about this?

What does this have to do with ANYTHING?

As we can see the Israeli decided
> to commit another massacre in the holy village of
> Cana in 2006.
>
> About AFP: You know very well that I know nothing
> about the decision making process at AFP. I just
> know that I am not one of the decision makers. I am
> an "independent contractor" - that's it. The
> finances, circulation, editorial and advertising
> policies, and book sales decisions are something I
> know absolutely nothing about. I am mystified by
> the decisions made at AFP that seem to be
> counter-productive.

I share your concerns but I don't have any control
over anyof it.

I don't know why the paper is
> not sold on the streets of Washington.

It is sold in newspaper boxes all over the city,
including one right down at the subway near the
office.

I don't know
> why the circulation does not grow. How should I
> know?

I am not asking you to explain that.
>
> About Jennifer White. The first thing that Jerry
> Myers asked me when I went to the office was to
> identify the outside agent. On my first Friday
> night when Jennifer was getting ready to leave I
> wished her a casual "Shabbat Shalom," which she
> clearly understood immediately. We later had a long
> talk at some point, which Jerry was angry about, and
> I recall she told me that she spoke Hebrew and had
> lived in Israel, etc.

That was well known. You don't have to be defensive
about it. Other people on the staff wondered why you
felt compelled to mention that on the air.
>
> My point is not about Jennifer White, but rather
> that from the beginning of my career at the
> Spotlight I have been told that the paper has had
> various agents of control influencing the people,
> the decisions, and the business. This all came from
> Jerry Meyers.

I don't know what Jerry told you, although I'm sure he
may have told you about the behavior of Gregory
Douglas, which I can write a book about, and should.

Jerry himself has suspicions about Hufschmid, based on
his own observations.

i don't think Hufschmid is an "agent." I think he's a
lunatic.
>
> As I told him then, I can't be preoccupied with
> all the things that have gone on and that are going
> on behind the scenes because my job is to write my
> articles and do my research. If I bothered myself
> with all of that intrigue I would never get anything
> done.
>
> I am not Eric Hufschmid's manager. Why should I
> have to condemn or comment on what he says. This
> reminds me of how, during the Jimmy Walter tour in
> Europe, I had to come down every day to defend AFP
> and Willis Carto for things he had said, groups he
> had formed, and things he had done in the 1950s or
> something. As I told Jimmy, Willis Carto is his own
> man and speaks for himself. Why am I held to
> account for what Willis Carto or Eric Hufschmid
> says?

The analogy makes sense, but then again, Willis is not
condemning American Free Press as Eric Hufschmid is. I
am getting emails from people (influenced by
Hufschmid) who think that AFP is allied against you
and Hufschmid and Daryl Bradford Smith.

Now isn't that a little weird?
>
> Maybe you don't see it like this, but I think this
> Makufka-Guliani team is a wrecking crew.
>
> CB

The truth is that they never said anything bad about
American Free Press until this Danner thing came up.

The truth is that anyone who listens to my program
(with you and Victor Thorn---or Makufka, if you
insist) will see that I was very balanced and did NOT
gang up on you.

In fact, I actually just listened to the show for the
first time tonight and during the closing minutes of
the show I reiterated to Victor my belief that the
attack on you by Wing TV was wrong and that it was
without foundation.

I challenge everybody on this list to listen to that
show, particularly the closing minutes, and it is very
clear that I am standing up for Christopher AGAINST
Victor.

However, it really and truly does appear that
Christopher is actually believing what Hufschmid and
Smith are saying.

I honest to God do not understand how you can suggest
that I was biased against you.

i find all of this, particularly your claim that I
ganged up on you with Victor Thorn, absolutely
ASTOUNDING. I mean it.
>
>

Michael Collins Piper
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Mike, et al:
> >
> > Mike, in all fairness, you let Scott Makufka take
> > over your show last night and allowed this rabid
> > Cerberus to go berserk on me. Most unfair.
>
> Christopher:
>
> You had as much right to talk as much as "Scott
> Makufka" did. If he talked more than you did, I had
> nothing to do with that. I brought you on to the
> program so that you could address specifics about
> what
> they said to "refute" your original story. Instead,
> you talked about Thorn's real name being Makufka and
> him being a cab driver. I can tell you that Paul,
> Chris and Julie, who heard the show, felt that was a
> very weak response on your part, as I did, and I was
> frankly surprised that you didn't go after him more
> yourself.
>
> You know very well that I have consistently said
> that
> you were a target of the ADL and that I have written
> a
> story to that effect this week in AFP and that, not
> once, but twice, I asked Victor to explain why he
> and
> Lisa EVEN DARED to question your version of events.
>
> In addition, I gave Mark Bilk—who you were blasting
> as
> a Zionist just a week ago—an extended amount of time
> to discredit the Hoffman Estates cop, which he did
> quite effectively.
>
> Plus, I also gave Jack Blood really far much more
> time
> than he deserved, frankly, to rake Victor Thorn over
> the coals.
>
> In truth, his mission was to attack Victor, no
> matter
> how much he put on the pretense of "defending" you,
> and the fact is that he and Victor actually spent
> much
> more time going after each other than you and Victor
> actually spent "debating."
>
>
> >
> > I don't know what relationship you or AFP have
> > with this taxi driver from State College, Penn.,
>
> My relationship with that "taxi driver" is no
> mystery
> to anyone.
>
> he has been a strong supporter of AFP generally and
> of
> me specifically. He published a book of my writings,
> for which he gave me 50 free copies and a $240
> royalty
> for 240 copies.
>
> Separately, and actually against my wishes, as Paul
> Angel can affirm, Paul set up a deal with Victor for
> AFP to publish a new edition of the book for which
> Victor and I have been paid royalties that I had
> nothing to do with arranging.
>
>
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Grim, I'm sure that Old St. Pipe was devastating. TRUST ME, I know!

Closing down a thread when it is defeating the purpose of the website is not suppressing freedom. This used to be a better website before Fester and a couple of others began to bicker about DBS. The conversation needs to be closed, it is a waste of time and it distracts from what's really important. No doubt one or two of the people involved in this discussion are Zionist shills trying to distract people and create divisions.

Remember Malcolm X's words: "by whatever means necessary" - shutting down the DBS threads is necessary, even banning a troublemaking Zionist shill or two from time to time might be a good idea.

Remember, they want to divide and distract us - the only was to defeat them is for us to work together, and somehow become immune to their methods of manipulation.

There isn't much more that need be said, and it's time to wrap up this subject and move on to other things. I can only conclude one of two things about anyone who listens to Piper and purports to believe that he is a "secret Zionist": 1) They are lying. 2) They have something wrong with them.

It looks like Helje Kaskel slipped up badly when she told Christopher to claim that it was Eric's "stepfather" who was the Jew, and "a very nice fellow" who'd helped Eric send out his books and videos. According to Eric, he and his half-sister Kathryn share the same father.

Are we to believe that there were two mothers and two fathers, which itself would be evidence of Jewish debauchery? If Eric had a Jewish stepmother, that could explain how Kathyrn was deemed kosher to marry into the Murdoch family. But there is a stepfather too, according to Christopher and Helje>

It's not necessarily a person's religion that is the problem. The "evil gene" could derive from Khazar ancestry as a result of the Khazars having been rich traders who had the means, and the opportunity by way of their Central Asian location, to ingest large amounts of cannabis, along with practices such as incest. The psychopathy could be inherited from father or mother, unlike the definition of a Jew having to have a Jewish mother.

But Eric must have an eye on inheriting a share of Rupert Murdoch's fortune. Is he really going to risk throwing that away by exposing Zionism, or guarantee a share for himself by carrying out the Zionists' agenda of luring truth seekers onto the equivalent of a spinning hamsters' wheel where they are no threat to the Zionist Mafia, and then tarnishing the evidence of Zionist crimes by association when TFC ship is scuttled?

As for Bollyn, there are three possibilities: 1) He was lying in the email when he said he was married to an Israeli who worked for Israeli intelligence. 2) He was lying in his speech in the video when he said that as a Christian he could not get married to an Israeli. 3) He converted to Judaism, and is posing as a "Christian".

Years ago, I had a work colleague who was rather like Bollyn, apart from the fact that he was a pleasant enough character. Once, when he was boasting about his hi-fi, he said his FM tuner was so good that it managed to pull in Radio Australia, thousands of miles away, with a piece of wet string as the antenna. And that was supposed to be on FM, not short-wave!

I agree with Justice Seeker and Qrswave, this thread isn't going anywhere.. come on, incest and cannabis??? It's obvious that there's no new 'information', and whatever tidbits that were found, only one being interesting, are proof of no wrongdoing. I have as much power over who MY sister marries as Eric or anyone else. People are not guilty by assosiation, especially when it's not even a fact! I'll keep my mind clear to judge for myself the information, no matter who it comes from.

No more shilly shoap operation for me, lol.

Here's some written info on the Yorans by Bollyn. I hate audio, it's scattered and messy, and I usually end up doing other things and forget to listen.

Israelis Hold Keys to NSA and U.S. Government Computers

The Israeli Moles Who Controlled U.S. Defense Computers on 9/11

Thanks for the info though, UAZ.

Has anyone figured out/noticed what St. Pipe's devastating revelation on the Monday 5/28/07 show was? I'm listening again, but it all seems highly subjective and specious to me.

There's some devastating name calling (Mr...er..Miss Hufschmid, Hickster Balloon, Daryl B. Smear, Ms. Esther Hufschmid, etc.) at around the 16:00 mark. He's also promising "a lot more to say about Christopher Bollyn" to be delivered later "when the time is right." Hubba, hubba!

In between there's a pile of assertions:
Bollyn & Huf "had an unusally close and intimate relationship" so Bollyn would have to have known that Huf "is" partly Jewish. Huf and Bollyn don't sound that chummy on air together, but if dear old St. Pipe is gay, he might be employing Gay Radar to get to the bottom of the situation.

He also asserts that Bollyn gave Huf "loads" of details on the Israeli angle prior to the publication of Huf's book. It would be nice to hear them discuss it on TFC. I haven't kept track of the dates of the appearances of the key evidence, so I can't say for sure, but it still seems likely that there was much, much less certainty about the Israelis at the time he published.

Can anyone recall Huf ever attacking anyone other than the Zionists as the perpetrators of 911? Was he originally trying to steer us away from the Zionists, but failed? He's been screaming "it's the Zionists, stupid" for 4 and 1/2 years, but St. Pipe says he's no good. Meanwhile, "Germanic Death Cult" Jones avoids the Zionist issue entirely.

St. Pipe seems to be conflicted over Bollyn. He's a "liar" but he's been "misled."

I'm not the best or most unbiased person to report on the Pipe Report as I find St. Pipe's delivery tedious with a lot of pseudo-heavy pausing and a whole lot of fluffing ("so to speak..in other words...in a message..on the phone..)

He DID clearly refer to Hufschmid's "MIND CONTORL" techniques and how he'd befuddled Bollyn, I mean "Christopher." Eureka! That was pretty key for me and a real eye opener. Bollyn keeps coming back and back without the slightest clue that Miss Esther is "planting all that seed" in him. Go, Pipe, go!

The email may or may not mean something. Others would be better evaluators of it than I. I'm not very technical but it would seem within my capablities of faking.

I recall Bollyn's reputed use of the term "lunatic" in the email to describe Huf. I can also imagine calling a friend something similarly unflattering without intending for it to be "established" as my complete or permanent opinion of them or their work. Sorry, that's the old common sense kicking in again.

I find Old St. Pipe a dubious voice for truth, but of course he's promised more devastating revelations when "the time is ripe."

and mine.

These personal battles between truth-tellers are non-issues.

I've seen you contribute much better than this.

Time is too precious to waste.

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"Money" has no value - people do.

Q, then I'll close.

However, the essential point as I see it is that when Smith et al make charges they provide a reason which folks can consider critically.

For example, when they say that Alex Jones is a fraud for ignoring Zionism, people can independently evaluate the statement. Lots of folks are eating this bad seed up, but does anyone here really believe that our problems are a continuation of some Jew-Exterminating Germanic Death Cult as Jones implies?

Same thing when Smith et al say Rivero is suspect for his insistance that a plane hit the Pentagon, his rejection of Apollo questions out of hand, and, I'm assuming, his very diluted approach to Zionism (yes, yes, he's got great stuff on modern Israel and it's activities - a much easier problem to whitewash away if the public ever wakes up).

The crap presented as "evidence" against Smith is consistently based on innuendo and very questionable characterizations to put it diplomatically.

I believe that pointing this out is valuable as people such as Death Cult Jones and Rivero draw very large numbers of people interested in the truth. Healthy skepticism ain't a bad thing although the chorus wails that it's "divdin' the truth movement!" I guess some people don't think we're capable of exercising skepticism.

Daryl and Huf seem to be overly paranoid and would do better with more honey and less vinegar, but the important thing is their information and focus. IF, they lose it, THEN, perhaps, some of the shabby collection of 1/2 questions and quibbles presented will constitute something approaching circumstantial evidence, BUT not until an observable crime has been committed.

Sorry for making a mess, but Jefferson was correct about vigilance. Anyhow, I'll drop it unless the organ grinder sends the monkey out again.

Peace. Fester

we're in this together.

People are very capable of discerning truth from lies when offered the full gamut of information.

But, not one of us knows it all.

We're all learning.

So, let it be together rather than against each other.

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"Money" has no value - people do.

Nina, this was your response to me.

"Well, despite what Eric has supposedly reported re Daryl's connection, every time i have logged Daryl's visits he has had a different France Telecom IP address."
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This is my question to you regarding this response.

Logged Daryl's visits? I'm curious! Which website was DBS visiting that allowed you to log his visits? Was this I Am The Witness?

Don't be silly Suzette... how and why would I log his visits to his own site?

I've been logging his bi-weekly visits to my Jdate member page, of course. ;)

justice seeker: This used to be a better website before Fester and a couple of others began to bicker about DBS. The conversation needs to be closed, it is a waste of time and it distracts from what's really important.

How can this discussion hurt if it's kept to one thread? Blame the few clowns who started new threads for no reason and flooded the site with personal issues. It may be a waste of time in some respects, but the issue of agents within the anti-Zionist movement is important. TFC has done excellent work (at least up until recently), but the most simplest of common sense tells us that it's impossible that everyone except a select few that TFC approve of are "part of the criminal network". So this behavior of accusing everyone of being agents with minimal evidence needs to be explained.

See the video of Chris Bollyn speaking here, where he again confirms that he got to "meet" David Rockefeller in the park. He starts talking about Bilderberg at about 38:20, saying "I've met a couple of them [Bilderbergers] in the park; I've met David Rockefeller in Paris the other year when he came walking back from the Chateau at Versailles." A top NWO / Zionist / crypto-Jewish / globalist who is on friendly enough terms with a representative of an anti-Zionist publication that he doesn't tell him to get lost? We all agree that Bollyn looks sincere in this video, but almost 100% of its content would be truthful in any case.

So where do you get that they had a "chat in the park"? Piper also met David Rockefeller once (see Stadtmiller_051007_170000.MP3 @ 42 min), but that doesn't mean they had a "chat".

As for Piper's Monday show, he didn't reveal much at all. His big bombshell was suggesting the possibility that Hufschmid might be Jewish, and that this is his motivation for accusing everyone of being agents, and that he's trying to protect Jews by blaming Zionists.... Not very convincing, is it? Even if we ignore the fact that in 2002 Hufschmid was blaming "the Jews" (see below), how would it explain DBS and Bollyn?

Piper is mistaken or lying in regards to David Duke, as Duke mantains to this very day that the 19 magical Arabs did 9/11. See this video from Duke, and this broadcast from just 3 months ago. He says the Israelis "knew but didn't warn us" about 9/11, and also blames Arabs for the 1983 Beirut barracks and USS Cole bombings.

If Piper is telling the truth about Duke's speech in Moscow, then that means that Duke has changed his view since then, which is illogical. So, either Piper is lying, or Duke is now covering up 9/11. If Piper is honest, that's something for him to consider.

I want Poseidon to do this test... listen to last week's The Piper Report shows, if you haven't already. Take the show on Tuesday, which is the rebroadcast with Bollyn & Hufschmid that this thread refers to, and compare it to the other 4 shows. Which one has more useful information -- the Tuesday show with Bollyn & Hufschmid, or the other 4 shows with Piper combined?

I'm not saying that Piper doesn't have good information, just that his pace is comparable to that of a limping turtle. He gives out small tidbits here and there, whereas Bollyn and Hufschmid lay it all out at once. It's like Piper assumes we have time to waste.

> How should I know what goes on at AFP? I simply
> write stories and do my research on my own. I have
> seen that Chris P. and AFP in general is reluctant
> to get into the nitty gritty of Zionism, which I
> attibuted to the fact that don't know Zionism with
> their own eyes as I do.

I am surprised to see that you would say that Chris
Petherick and AFP in general are reluctant to get into
the nitty gritty of Zionism.

THE HIGH PRIESTS OF WAR
THE NEW JERUSALEM
FINAL JUDGMENT
THE JUDAS GOATS

All of the articles that you have written and I have
written on the topic.

Bollyn is spot on here, and Piper is being disingenuous. It's only them two that fully expose Zionism; most others talk about the "Globalists". If you go to Chris Petherick's blog, you'll see that he links only to websites that don't expose Zionism, as I pointed out early on in the DBS Indicted thread. It almost looks as if Petherick doesn't subscribe to "conspiracy theories". Does that not indicate that Petherick is reluctant to "get into the nitty gritty of Zionism", as Bollyn says?

> I have lived in Israel/Palestine for years and
> seen my friends shot, maimed and killed. I was
> married to a woman who worked in Israeli military
> intelligence. I was the subject of an Israeli
> inquiry when I was 21 years old. I have been to
> Iran, Syria, Jordan, Gaza, Egypt, Tunisia, Turkey,
> and other Middle Eastern capitals since I was 18
> years old.

So it is confirmed then -- Bollyn's wife worked in Israeli military intelligence. He has openly stated that he lived in Israel and married an Israeli woman, but I have not heard him mentioning that she was an intelligence agent on air or in his writings; how come? And then his second wife appears to have a Jewish name, and her first husband died in a possible Mossad operation...

Bollyn starts talking about his time in Israel (41:30), saying that he only had a D visa, and "I'm a Christian ... as a Christian, you cannot get married to an Israeli, you cannot own land in Israel." Yet Piper says he has an email from Bollyn claiming to have been married to an Israeli woman who worked for Israeli intelligence. He says he has passed the email on to Suzette. Someone is lying.

That's a significant contradiction. How hard is it for a Christian to marry a Jew in Israel?

Also, I find Bollyn's "I wish I knew" comment to be just a bit beyond what could be attributed to his politeness. If I was in that situation, I would've been quick to explain that the Mossad and Larry Silverstein did it, "without a doubt". It looks like he blew a wonderful opportunity, but it's also possible that it was largely the work of CNN editing. Perhaps Bollyn was trying to actually convince the reporter (Deborah Feyerick) that what he was saying is true, and so he was being extremely careful.

It's not necessarily a person's religion that is the problem. The "evil gene" could derive from Khazar ancestry as a result of the Khazars having been rich traders who had the means, and the opportunity by way of their Central Asian location, to ingest large amounts of cannabis, along with practices such as incest. The psychopathy could be inherited from father or mother, unlike the definition of a Jew having to have a Jewish mother.

I don't believe there is such thing as an "evil gene". It's all about the environment in which a person grows up in. The Talmudic influence within Jewish families would make some Jews "evil" even when they are not particularly religious. Contrast that to an atheist grown up in a Christian environment. If the "evil gene" theory is true, then you'd have to explain the actions of Sephardim, Mizrahim, and the ancient Israelites. For example, most of the genocidal 'Young Turks' crypto-Jews were Sephardim.

So, no, I don't think Eric Hufschmid has an "evil gene", and I don't think you believe so either, Poseidon.

Regarding Hufschmid's book, I never found it suspicious that he didn't mention any Israeli connection because he didn't really point the finger at anyone; he merely blew the official story full of holes. However, there's no question that he knew about the Israeli connection, and not only that -- he had written articles on his website (prior to putting together his book, I think) in which he blamed "the Jews" for demolishing the WTC towers.

It is interesting though, that he only mentioned Israel in passing in his video (Painful Deceptions), and that for years after he wrote that article blaming "the Jews", he blamed the US government for the most part.

Regardless of whether or not they are agents, one thing is clear: Smith, Hufschmid, and Bollyn by association, are self-destructing. They have lost almost all their guests (I was surprised to see Mohammed Rafiq back), and now almost all their long-time hardcore supporters, as is evidenced in this and the other DBS/TFC threads. They have totally marginalized themselves, and I can't help but think that it's by design.

Nina, you responded to my question regarding Daryl's IP with the following.

"DBS's ultra dynamic IP
Don't be silly Suzette... how and why would I log his visits to his own site?

I've been logging his bi-weekly visits to my Jdate member page, of course. ;)"
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You're the one who is being inane Nina. You made a statement wherein you said that every time you have "logged Daryl's visits he has had a different France Telecom IP address,"and I asked you if the website where you logged Daryl's visits was I Am The Witness. You responded with one of your "silly jokes". I do of course assume that you were actually joking about being Jewish.

I ask you a straightforward question to which you respond with a question. You ask how and why you would log his visits to his own site. I Am The Witness is not Daryl's site. It is Eric Hufschmid's. Hufschmid is the webmaster, not Smith, but you already know this. The following quotation is lifted from the series of e-mails that flew back and forth between you and Infensus Mentis a.k.a. Crimes of Zion a few months ago.....

"I spoke with Daryl directly about the NOLA shit and he said he couldnt remove it because he really has little to do with the website and "frankly, I wouldnt know how to change it or even access my site." [snicker snicker] So after much arguing I got him to "have Eric remove the links". (Mind you, this is before I'd realized that NOLA was probably in on the charade as well.)"

So let's dispense with the 'I Am The Witness is Daryl's website' crap please.

You've didn't answer my question, so I'll ask it again.....

Which website was DBS visiting that allowed you to log his visits?

For you to log DBS' visits to a website, you would need to be in control of that website or at the very least have admin powers. So Nina, what website did Daryl visit with such regularity?

Perhaps you don't have even a cursory understanding of IP logging/visitor tracking, etc.

I cannot track visits to any site that I do not have admin privileges for. I do not, nor have I ever had such access to iamthewitness or any other site not owned by me... (unlike yourself, I might add, Suzette!) Furthermore, I would have no interest in tracking visits to any site other than my own.

To recap, I only monitor visits to sites I administer for myself. In other words, I only track the IP's of visitors to my own sites.

Can you deduce the rest?

As to the URL of my site... if that's what you are asking for..

..I don't believe that it is any of your business, Suzette.

Perhaps if you were to ask politely, rather than demand... and if you were to explain how it is in any way germane to you or your business, I would consider sharing it with you.

Maybe restricting to one thread and voluntarily limiting the frequency of this thread's comments (to prevent the front page comments being crowded out by the so-called "in-fighting") will be deemed acceptable, otherwise I would stop posting about DBS / Eric / Christopher. If comments on this topic are driving good posters away from WUFYS, they are counterproductive. Qrswave should not be placed in the quandary of having to choose between censoring free speech or seeing the forum harmed. WUFYS is more important than anyone's ego, and eventually there is a law of diminishing returns and it becomes more productive to focus elsewhere.

I consider the issue of infiltration in the movement important, not merely because truth seekers are being manipulated, emasculated, and herded into a goy pen, but more intriguingly because the identity of those involved in the 9/11 cover-up provides more clues as to the perpetrators. E.g., the links from Eric Hufschmid to James Murdoch and hence on to Rupert Murdoch and Jacob Rothschild. My brother-in-law doesn't have connections like that! Bollyn's links are more tenuous; his claim about the Israeli wife must be taken with a large cube of salt, and his Rockefeller connections are not as sound as the Hufschmid - Murdoch association.

In his writing and speech, Bollyn singles out David Rockefeller - or "David Rockefeller and his bodyguard" - as one of the "couple of them [Bilderbergers]" that he had met. It would be a weird kind of meeting that didn't involve any kind of chat. I'm not suggesting that Bollyn provided a full report on his infiltration operation, just that Rockefeller recognised him as one of his own and not some irritating anti-globalist hack that he wouldn't want to give the time of day to.

In contrast, Piper just said, "Hello David" and David waved back from his limousine. That isn't exactly what I would class as a "meeting".

As to what drives Eric, he must have an eye on inheriting a share of Rupert Murdoch's $9 billion fortune. Is he really going to risk throwing that away by exposing Zionism, or guarantee a share for himself by carrying out the Zionist agenda of shepherding truth seekers onto this equivalent of a spinning hamsters' wheel where they are penned in and kept occupied with titbits of innocuous circumstantial evidence that is no threat whatsoever to the Zionist Mafia? The Zionist operation would subsequently tarnish this evidence of Zionist crimes by association, when the agents self-destruct and scuttle the TFC ship.

Now that it appears almost certain that Eric Hufschmid is part Jewish, what do folks think would be more characteristic behavior? 1) Expose Jewish crimes and thereby pass up the chance of a few million dollars in his bank account. 2) Take the money, and play the role of Judas goat with the aim of countering the truth movement and covering up Jewish crimes.

Helje / Christopher made a clumsy attempt to suggest that Eric isn't Jewish, but has a "Jewish stepfather". Eric says on his website that he and "half-sister" Kathryn share the same father. Are we to believe that the family was so dysfunctional that there were two mothers and two fathers? This theory would run something like this: Eric had a Swiss father and Italian mother, both Gentiles which allows him to be non-Jewish. Then the couple divorce and a Jewess bizarrely decides to marry the Swiss gentleman. Kathyrn is born, and this could explain how Kathryn was kosher to marry into the Murdoch family. Then the Jewess and the Swiss Gentile split up, the father being replaced by a Jewish stepfather, with the new Jewish couple bearing no resemblance to the original Gentile parents. Then, inexplicably, the Jewish stepfather is such a "very nice fellow" that he helps his stepson expose the fact that 9/11 wasn't done by Arabs, even if Eric does cover up the fact that it was the work of the Zionists.

Isn't it more reasonable that Eric originally made up the crafty cover story about a "Jewish stepmother" since he was worried about the possibility of Rupert Murdoch's ethnic status becoming widely known, fully aware that it would be necessary to provide an explanation of how Eric himself could be a "non-Jew" whilst Kathryn was allowed to marry James Murdoch? Then, Christopher forgot that he was not supposed to reveal that Eric is part-Jewish, and in a damage limitation exercise, Helje Kaskel told Christopher to pass on the story about the "Jewish stepfather", forgetting to confer with Eric over which parent it was supposed to be. Christopher then compounded the error by tacking on an ad lib recollection - to try to make the lie more credible - of how the alleged Jewish stepfather was a "very nice fellow" who had helped Eric send out his books and videos!

That is confirmed by Eric, who writes at the above link: "We wondered what happened to her, but my father has no idea because Kathryn did not have enough of an attachment to him to bother keeping in touch." There is no suggestion of a stepfather there, so Helje and Christopher's story of the "very nice fellow" appears to be an outright lie!

Eric and Daryl have called for "all Jews to step back from the 9-11 investigation until we [Eric and Daryl] can figure out which Jews participated in 9-11 and which ones are innocent." So Eric's part Jewish status would introduce a delicious irony into the mix.

In David Duke's early article - the latest reference in the footnotes is dated November 11, 2001 - he points out that if bin Laden was behind 9/11, then it was on account of US foreign policy and support of Israel. Duke has a lot to say about Jewish terrorism, and he mentions the Lavon Affair, the Pollard spy scandal, the USS Liberty attack, and the SAMS report on the cunning, ruthless Mossad having the capacity to target US forces and make it look like an Arab act. Duke asks: "Could the 'ruthless and cunning Mossad,' as the U.S. Army officers describe it, covertly have been behind the attack?" He goes on to argue: "And, if indeed they had foreknowledge of these murderous acts of terrorism – and then had the cold-blooded mentality not to warn the United States because they saw a horrendous massacre of thousands of Americans as good for Israel - it follows that they would have felt no restraint from actually instigating and covertly aiding this terrorist plan through their own agent provocateurs." Duke mentions the evidence of prior warning to Israelis, Benjamin Netanyahu's "It's very good" response, and the five dancing Israelis get a brief mention. In his updated .pdf file from 2002, he mentions the December 2001 four-part Fox News series on Israeli spying in the US, and has a bit more to say about the "dancing Israelis" including Urban Moving Systems' role as a Mossad front and the spies failing lie detector tests.

In 2002, Rupert Murdoch's son-in-law Eric Hufschmid was still covering up for Israel!

I find there is more useful information with Piper as the presenter, compared to when Eric and Christopher stood in for him. Piper clearly has a finite amount of news each day and has to try and fill out the show. TFC's operation is designed to lure people over to their side by reflecting anti-Zionists' own opinions and telling them what they want to hear. So Piper may seem to plod at times, but leaves me with the impression of a sincere anti-Zionist / anti-Jewish reporter. TFC is a spin operation that has had a great deal of effort put into it, but is coming disastrously unstuck after being involved in a collision with the truth.

Chris Petherick has made a typo of an extra dot where he tried to link to antiwar.com. Justin Raimondo has written some good articles exposing Jewish terrorism. Piper said that links on his blog led to too many arguments about whether they were covering up for Israel, or were anti-Semitic.

It's worth noting that Piper is a moon landing denier, or at least a strong sympathiser (see the May 31, 2007 Piper Report from 25:00 after a caller brings up the subject). I think there is still some significance in Eric's following Rupert Murdoch in promoting moon landing denial - considering the fact that most of the evidence for the WTC demolition is science-based and the case for Apollo being a hoax seems to derive from a more intuitive epistemology. But I would have to admit that promotion of moon landings denial is not evidence of being a "Zionist agent".

Piper said that Bill Fox made the point that so much government propaganda has been exposed as absolute lies, so why should we believe what they tell us about man landing on the moon? I would accept there are some arguments to support the theory such as the massive incentive to take the cash and substitute a cheap fake, and the processing power of Sixties computers. But an Apollo hoax would require many conspirators to keep quiet for decades; real conspiracies have been exposed within years when there were only a few participants.

There is a lot more about Christopher Bollyn on the January 9, 2007 Piper Report starting at 34:45. A female caller from Utah speaks about how she heard Bollyn making claims concerning Mark Lane and AFP on another radio show. Piper says that some believe Eric and Daryl are just troublemakers, and recalls how one of TFC's guests told Piper that Eric had told him, "We're just throwing bombs out there and watching which way people scurry." Piper mentions (45:30) how they had a P.I. investigate Bollyn.

Piper says how AFP returned about $15,000 of donations for Christopher Bollyn that had come in (42:30), and they got letters back along the lines of, "It's a very sad thing that Christopher has done what he's done, but I wouldn't want him to have my money after what he's done." Piper mentions Bollyn's claim that William Rodriguez was a Zionist agent who was covering up Israel's role in 9/11 and Bollyn's subsequent attempts to get Rodriguez to say he was his good friend, suggesting that it was evidence that for Bollyn, "the elevator's not going the whole way to the top." Evidently, AFP are concerned about how much of Bollyn's work out there is simply nonsense (50:00), and Bollyn tried to get a story into the Barnes Review that could be a fraud. They also discuss (47:10) how Eric Hufschmid promotes the conspiracy theory that Paul McCartney died in 1966. In that theory, the CIA staged a car accident, messed it up, and then forced the other Beatles to accept a replacement. The new 'McCartney' was either a double or a man who had lots of plastic surgery, and was somehow able to sing the same as the original (click on "3) Criminal" in the contents frame at this link.

At 55:30 - 56:00, Piper says how he thought Bollyn was working for an anti-Zionist faction within the CIA, as I suggested earlier in the other thread. Maybe the "money from overseas" was from a Swiss bank?

I think evil is more genetic than environment-based. In a thought experiment, suppose there exists a hypothetical human population that is totally devoid of psychopaths. Everyone respects human life and others' rights not to be killed, tortured, maimed, etc for profit. Then the population is divided up into four or five groups, one of them with a "sacred" book claiming that their group is better than the rest, and they are the "chosen ones".

I don't think that would be sufficient to lead to bloodshed. And by letting each group think that they are the best, it could be a positive-sum game, even though people are only feeding their egos. Maybe followers of religion are more influenced by their holy books than I imagine. As an atheist, I find it surprising that people would prefer to take the word of some centuries-old book of dubious reliability, rather than work out the ultimate answers to the ultimate questions themselves. Lack of time or intellectual sloth are two possible explanations.

But if a person is basically good and has a conscience and empathy for other human beings, I do not think they would start killing people just because a book tells them that some people are the equivalent of "grasshoppers" or "crocodiles". Their own innate sense of justice and compassion should tell them that murder for profit is wrong.

Yes, Smith / Hufschmid / Bollyn seem to be self-destructing by design, and I consider the Zionist agents theory to be preferable over "mind control" theories.

Nina suggested that different (dynamic) I.P. addresses is indicative of dial-up or ISDN connections. When I upgraded from dial-up to broadband, I found there was no change in my I.P. addresses. Fairly typically, my I.P. address shows the same until I disconnect and reconnect, whereupon it generally appears as another similar number within a given range.

Some visitors to my site have ultra-dynamic I.P.s that change with every file download. Because I.P.s are in short supply, a static address is a more expensive option, and generally used for servers. So if anything, static addresses would be more likely to correlate with broadband than dial-up. But if Daryl's address changed with every visit, that doesn't tell us whether he has broadband. And nowadays, it would be strange indeed if one of the "greatest Zionist exposers" did not have broadband access.

To recap, DBS claims that he won't use SKYPE because it "doesn't network the way they want."

You say that SKYPE will not work properly because DBS connects to the Internet via a 56k dialup connection. What you claim completely contradicts what Eric Hufschmid has told me. According to Daryl's webmaster, DBS has been using a high-speed broadband connection since last year. In this case, the reason that you have given for Daryl not using SKYPE is incorrect and invalid.

Eric is better-placed to understand the technicalities of his partner's Internet connection than are you. Eric states that DBS uses a high-speed broadband connection, you state that he uses a 56k dial-up. One of you is badly mistaken, and unless you are privy to information regarding DBS that his partner and webmaster is not, it is you who is more likely to have erred.

It is you Nina who is suggesting that DBS is unable to use SKYPE because he does not have a fast-enough Internet connection, and since it is you who is disputing the accuracy of Eric Hufschmid's information, the onus lies with you to back-up your claim with hard evidence. You have already stated that you have such evidence, and all I am doing is asking you to produce it. Share with us the visitor logs that you say you have access to. Show us proof that DBS uses multiple IP addresses. Show that you are correct and Hufschmid wrong. Prove it.

You stated that you "only monitor visits to sites" that you administer for yourself then you speak of the URL of your site. You mention "sites" as in plural then you speak of "site" as in singular. You either have a site, or you have multiple sites. Which is the case? Why won't you state for the record the particular websites where you have administration privileges. Why won't you tell us the name(s) of the site(s)? Why won't you allow all other interested parties access to the information on the site(s) that you claim DBS visits on a regular basis? Why all the secrecy?

The website(s) you own and operate is not only a matter of interest to me, but also to everyone who has an interest in this thread. The title of this thread is 'Eric Hufschmid's charge unfounded', and if what you are saying with regard to the speed of DBS' Internet connection is true, then what Eric told me is obviously untrue. If this is so, we have yet another false statement from Eric. If you continue to insist that DBS is on a 56k dial-up then by default you imply that Hufschmid is lying. You can't have it both ways Nina. So which of you is telling the truth, and which of you is lying?

Addition to the Waste of time this DBS thing is getting.

You are never going to lay a IP glove on any of this bunch. Why even start this line? TO WASTE EVERYONES TIME.

More of the same old same old.

Lame.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Suzette,

I would never publicly disclose anyone's IP address(es)... not even yours.

I would also never disclose any piece of information to you privately, for any reason.

As to my site(s), I have no interest in you visiting it/them whatsoever.

I have no admin privileges on any site(s) other than my own and I share such privileges with no one.

Regarding my relationship with Daryl, there is nothing further I wish to share with you.

In fact, I have nothing else to say to you, Suzette. Period.

Jesus you're bland old hag, Suzette. I swear you're either related to Dr Spock, or you're a computer program.

If you continue to insist that DBS is on a 56k dial-up then by default you imply that Hufschmid is lying. You can't have it both ways Nina. So which of you is telling the truth, and which of you is lying?

She didn't "insist" on anything. What I remember her doing is making a suggestion based on an observation. You're about as cluey as PlanetClouseau P.I, you silly old dork.

will never make you look innocent.

Fox the fox, and rat on the rat.

"We wondered what happened to her, but my father has no idea because Kathryn did not have enough of an attachment to him to bother keeping in touch."

How bizarre. So Eric doesn’t talk to his half sister and neither does his father? I guess it’s possible, but c’mon. I don’t know too many daughters who don’t talk to their father, unless they never knew him in the first place. Usually when someone is alienated from the family, someone in the family keeps tabs. It’s just human nature. So how does he know that his half sister is married to a Murdoch if no one knows what happened to her? Is that public info?

'Eric and Daryl have called for "all Jews to step back from the 9-11 investigation until we [Eric and Daryl] can figure out which Jews participated in 9-11 and which ones are innocent." So Eric's part Jewish status would introduce a delicious irony into the mix.'

I was thinking the same thing. Funny how quickly DBS dropped that. I guess he would lose all his contributors.

“But an Apollo hoax would require many conspirators to keep quiet for decades; real conspiracies have been exposed within years when there were only a few participants.”

This is one hoax I wouldn’t talk about if I was involved, because it’s pretty obvious that no one would believe it at the time and it could have you put into an insane asylum very easily. Plus, I’m sure everyone involved was under a death threat if they revealed anything.

‘Piper says how AFP returned about $15,000 of donations for Christopher Bollyn that had come in (42:30), and they got letters back along the lines of, "It's a very sad thing that Christopher has done what he's done, but I wouldn't want him to have my money after what he's done."’

What a crappy thing to do. AFP could have taken the high road. They said that they were going to give him the money even after Bollyn “didn’t defend them.” So someone lied. Just because Bollyn wouldn't defend AFP, people want to see him go to jail on supposedly false charges? Sounds pretty sick or is AFP lying? This is one area that we should overlook any differences.

“The new 'McCartney' was either a double or a man who had lots of plastic surgery, and was somehow able to sing the same as the original (click on "3) Criminal" in the contents frame at this link.”

A few stars have died and been replaced. Don’t know how this implicates EH. If anything, exposing it and Apollo make him look good.

“I think evil is more genetic than environment-based.”

Oh no, I feel pseudo science coming on. What next, Global Warming? Get A Gun!!!!

"I would never publicly disclose anyone's IP address(es)... not even yours."

Not even if the individual whose IP addresses you are being asked to disclose was someone who you believe may be a "Zionist operative" because the behavior that individual showed towards you employs "every known Zionist manipulation tactic" that a "Zionist operator" would use? Tactics such as those mentioned by Crimes of Zion perhaps?

An individual whose behavior had, you told Crimes of Zion on April 25, 2007, "recently freaked me out", an individual who you had already denounced as a "fucking scumbag liar," someone who you recommend everyone else to treat with "extreme caution and skepticism", not even someone who is on your Zionist watch-list?

The particular individual in question is Daryl Bradford Smith, and it was this individual, and this individual only, whose IP addresses I asked you to make public. You chose not to, so, we'll conclude the 56k dial-up versus the high-speed broadband debate here then, shall we? You have failed to convince me that Daryl and Eric both got it wrong about how Daryl connects to the Internet, and that you got it right. Daryl can use, and does use, SKYPE.

"I would also never disclose any piece of information to you privately, for any reason."

Nor I to you.....not that I would ever ask. You disclosed Daryl's landline telephone number to Joe Molero, the owner of NOLAJBS, and that alone is good enough reason for me not to trust you at all.

"As to my site(s), I have no interest in you visiting it/them whatsoever."

I never said that I had any interest in visiting your website(s). My sole interest in your website(s) lies exclusively in learning what particular material you have posted on your website(s) that would attract such regular visits from Daryl Bradford Smith using a 56k dial-up connection.

"I have no admin privileges on any site(s) other than my own and I share such privileges with no one."

Thank you for confirming that you, and you alone, are solely responsible for all the material that is to be found posted on your website(s).

"Regarding my relationship with Daryl, there is nothing further I wish to share with you."

Okay Nina, I'm happy to conclude here. I'll let Daryl have the last word about the relationship you and him have.

"In fact, I have nothing else to say to you, Suzette. Period."

Nor I to you. G'day Possum.

"Jesus you're bland old hag, Suzette. I swear you're either related to Dr Spock, or you're a computer program."

You don't appeal to me either Mr. Lintbottom. I much prefer refined, articulate, interesting, handsome men to Coprolalic, scruffy, voyeuristic boys.

To borrow the words of your "good friend"......I have nothing else to say to you, James Linton. Period.

G'day sport.

"Do they really think that they are so high and mighty that they can’t answer a few questions? They want answers about everyone else, but they won’t answer a few questions themselves? Did they really think people wouldn’t start asking questions about them?"

Duped's comments are as applicable to Nina and her knight in shining armor as they are to Smith and Hufschmid.

That hitpiece on me is lame. It hinges entirely on me being Donnie Darko, True Believer, Fester, Quo Vadius, and Brendan O'Connell, who I'm obviously not. And he knows this. Let me tell you why.

1. He has both O'Connell and my home addresses. They're different.

2. He has both our IP's, and they're different.

3. He has both our landline numbers, and they're different. And no, I didn't lie when I said I don't have a landline, because I don't. Not a landline telephone, only a mobile. They activated my landline account when I set up my internet account. You can ring it all day long, you'll only get whatever tone comes through when there's no phone on the end of it.

4. Brendon O'Connell reported me to the cops, and provided evidence of it by way of a link to a screenshot of the letter he got back from them, or the Ombudsman, whatever. I think it's pretty obvious that I'm not interested in reporting myself to the police, even for the sake of playing mindfuck games with Quo's head.

5. It's just obvious. He knows I'm not DD or QV or Fester, because we're totally different with regard to both our writing styles and our position on Smith and just about everything else. That's why you'll see no attempt at trying to prove it in the hitpiece. He just says it's so, and expects you to believe it.

Well it isn't the case. So is Quo a liar, or just stupid? I don't believe it's the latter, so I'll stick with what I've said all along, which is that he's a liar. I've got a webcam right here to comfort anyone I care enough about, if they're stupid enough to fall for any of it. I'm James Linton; one address, one "phone" number, one physical body, and one IP address, and I'm not in the habit of reporting myself to the authoritahs.

One thing you might notice in the hitpiece is that I stated my house number to be a two digit number. That's not true, there's three digits to it (as PlanetClouseau P.I has been kind enough to plaster all over his site for you). The reason for that, is because I didn't want anyone to know my address. Pretty understandable, I would've thought. But Quo asserts that because I'm actually Donnie Darko, I revealed my own address, which I then had to (as Infensus Mentis) refute, by saying that it only had two digits, not three, and therefore must be wrong. If you believe Quo, I had a very long, stupid argument with myself on the NOLAJBS forum, for no good reason, and reported myself to the police therein. It doesn't make sense, because it's bullshit. And very obvious bullshit, at that.

You might also notice that although Quo has stated on this forum that he published "the whole she-bang" with regard to our email correspondence, all his myspace correspondence to me is missing. Only mine is there; you won't see what he wrote to me on myspace, i.e. that which I'm responding to in the emails. And I know why; it's because he's embarrassed about certain things he said. He was all happy and appreciative of the "friend" requests he got after meeting me, and he's probably a bit too shy to show that email in particular, not with all those exclamation marks. Also, seeing as he insists we were never "friends", he'd be loathe to produce anything in which he's being all happy and "friendly", calling me things like "bud" and being decidedly friendli-istic. But look at one of the only little pieces of Quo's writing you can see in our myspace correspondence on that page. This is what he says:

Thanks for helping me expose these bastards. You're a star.

Regards

Jim

I guess he let that through because it wasn't as sucky and as "friendy" as the rest.

Before you admonish me, qrswave, I hear you. It's the last I have to say on the matter.

Yeah, that's it. Suzette (but I suspect Quo wrote that last comment) provided the link herself. It's the letter I just mentioned that O'Connell got back from the police after reporting me. But supposedly, I reported myself.

Snakes alive! PlanetQuo and Whippette are one and the same!!
What an attractive sock puppet couple..

In light of this new revelation, especially entertaining was reading about the kind of boys PlanetQuo is into these days... ones that carry pocket Thesauruses, no doubt.

The time has come to settle this shit once and for all, you lying little fuck.

Qrswave and others have, understandably, requested that we take our beef away from WUFYS, where important work is being done. I agree, so let's do it. Choose a forum, and let's see who and who is not serious about their dedication to the Truth. Let's see who's been lying, deceiving, and bullshitting. Let's see, once and for all, who the liar is.

This is the hitpiece in which Jim Kerr aka PlanetQuo has asserted that I'm Brendon O'Connell and all his aliases. He knows I'm not O'Connell, which I've made very clear, as you'll soon discover. O'Connell is my enemy, and always will be. O'Connell is a fucking idiot and a fraud, just like Kerr. Kerr is full of shit, and being that he's used his website to make a permanent record of his lies, which happen to show up as the fourth listing upon googling "crimes of zion", I've been forced to take time out to set the record straight. Each and every lie in the hitpiece has been debunked here.

That's two solid days of work and research which I would've much rather have spent in the fight against Zionism (which is not to say that I haven't been doing just that), which might explain why I haven't posted any blog material here lately. But it was a necessary endeavor; ask yourself how you'd handle your affairs if a hitpiece of that nature, full of outright lies and deception, were to be put out about you.

You picked the wrong Jamie Linton to fuck with, Kerr.

I haven't "pinged" it at technorati yet, or made arrangements for it to show up in a google search. But if we can't settle this bullshit in the due course of time, it won't be long before planetquo.blogspot.com is the third or fourth listing under "planetquo" on google, just like your hitpiece on me is, under "crimes of zion". I've also taken the liberty of covering my arse in numerous other ways which will not be disclosed at this point, as insurance against any further attacks on my name and reputation.

I've debunked all the claims Kerr has made in his hitpiece on me at

http://planetquo.blogspot.com/

The fact of the matter is, the Truth is on my side. I'm not Brendon O'Connell, or anyone else I haven't claimed to be, and I won't sit by idly while lies to that effect are plastered all over the net. I'm not standing for this shit any longer. I have the evidence; he has nothing but lies and spin. I'm armed with the Truth; he's full of shit and armless. It's a one-armed man against a one-man army.

So let's do it. Let's bring this to a head, PlanetSmear.

See you at sundown, pardner.

The truth, in correct order:

http://planetquo.blogspot.com/2007/06/truth-of-matter.html
http://planetquo.blogspot.com/2007/06/background.html
http://planetquo.blogspot.com/2007/06/planetclouseau-pi-idiot-savant.html

Just one last thing, by the way, before WUFYS sees no more of this folly.

Scroll up if you will, and check out Suzette's last post. Therein was stated

"You don't appeal to me either Mr Lintbottom. I much prefer refined, articulate, interesting, handsome men to Coprolalic, scruffy, voyeuristic boys."

Imagine my complete lack of surprise to see the exact same word, capitalised and all, on PlanetKerr's hitpiece page on me. He states on it

"...but it is now the turn of my duplicitous, deceiving, Coprolalic, adversary to face trial by jury."

What a coinky-dink, eh? Looks like Kerr the copralalic (which needn't begin with a capital 'c' in the middle of a sentence) hypocrite is the only one demonstrably posting on forums under false names. Note also that "bottom" is an English colloquialism for 'ass' or 'arse' - rarely if ever used by Americans. If Suzette wants to tell me I have lint in my arse-crack, it's kinda strange that she's using Kerr's English vernacular to tell me so.

"You don't appeal to me either Mr Lintbottom"

So either Quo is posting as Suzette, or Suzette has so little wit of her own that she's had to consult the similarly witless Jim Kerr aka PlanetQuo before responding to me in her post. Either way, it's yet another case of the kind of deceit we've come to expect from the Q/S/M trio.

No wonder all I got was silence when I called it a few posts ago.

Yeah, that's it. Suzette (but I suspect Quo wrote that last comment) provided the link herself.

I wonder who feels more embarrassed right now, Sooz or the pee queue.

Visit

http://planetquo.blogspot.com/

for the "trial by jury".

anyone have a good photo of kathryn murdoch?

i hadn't read the article by eric in a long time.. and believed it was actually sarah murdoch (wife of lachlan murdoch not james) that was eric's sister.

mainly because she has a similarity in her facial features (i guess i was just seeing things) and the high forehead:

sarah murdoch:

hmm, so re-reading it i see it's actually kathryn.. where's a pic of kathryn?

her in the centre:

(man she must be camera shy)

she's had a baby with james (maybe will want to meet uncle eric one day?) and is working for the clintons according to here:

http://www.jossip.com/gossip/kathryn-murdoch/the-clintons-have-friends-in-low-places-heiress-kathryn-murdoch-isnt-one-of-them-20070123.php